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		<title>By: liuxq</title>
		<link>http://www.icon-king.com/thoughts/few-things-about-kdm-that-do-not-make-much-sense-to-me/comment-page-2/#comment-824</link>
		<dc:creator>liuxq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you just say your name (and profile) to your computer, and it log you in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you just say your name (and profile) to your computer, and it log you in?</p>
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		<title>By: KDE 4.x discussion thread - Page 4 - Open Source and Linux &#124; TechEnclave</title>
		<link>http://www.icon-king.com/thoughts/few-things-about-kdm-that-do-not-make-much-sense-to-me/comment-page-2/#comment-813</link>
		<dc:creator>KDE 4.x discussion thread - Page 4 - Open Source and Linux &#124; TechEnclave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] KDE 4.x discussion thread    Check out this blog post: Few things about kdm that do not make much sense to me &#124; David Vignoni Visual Designer Blog Archive  So one of the devs responded: QML to KDM! Presto!! &#124; Enrico Ros  Some awesome videos of QML [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <span class="caps">KDE</span> 4.x discussion thread    Check out this blog post: Few things about kdm that do not make much sense to me | David Vignoni Visual Designer Blog Archive  So one of the devs responded: <span class="caps">QML </span>to <span class="caps">KDM</span>! Presto!! | Enrico Ros  Some awesome videos of <span class="caps">QML </span>[...]</p>
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		<title>By: Qml to Kdm! Presto! &#124; Enrico Ros</title>
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		<dc:creator>Qml to Kdm! Presto! &#124; Enrico Ros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;The first thing you&#039;ll notice about the new KDE 4 is it&#039;s old login manager&#8221; &#8211; as David Vignoni says in his controversial blog entry, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &ldquo;The first thing you'll notice about the new <span class="caps">KDE</span> 4 is it's old login manager&rdquo; &ndash; as David Vignoni says in his controversial blog entry, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dh</title>
		<link>http://www.icon-king.com/thoughts/few-things-about-kdm-that-do-not-make-much-sense-to-me/comment-page-2/#comment-805</link>
		<dc:creator>dh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, I&#039;ve been searching all over to find out how to login to remote desktops from kdm.  hours later I come across your site and I can actually do what I want.

Thanks.

BTW I also agree that there are many areas that kde has lost its way intuitively speaking. But I&#039;m glad to see that it is almost usable now (4.3)

KDM is just one of those places but since it is the first thing you see as a new user it has to make a good impression</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I've been searching all over to find out how to login to remote desktops from kdm.  hours later I come across your site and I can actually do what I want.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p><span class="caps">BTW</span> I also agree that there are many areas that kde has lost its way intuitively speaking. But I'm glad to see that it is almost usable now (4.3)</p>
<p><span class="caps">KDM </span>is just one of those places but since it is the first thing you see as a new user it has to make a good impression</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Mceachran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Mceachran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To disable the option for &#039;console login&#039; you comment out the line &#039;ConsoleTTY&#039; in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To disable the option for 'console login' you comment out the line 'ConsoleTTY' in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriele Santanché</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriele Santanché</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can reconfigure kdm, as you like ! ... RTFM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can reconfigure kdm, as you like ! ... <span class="caps">RTFM</span></p>
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		<title>By: I Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>I Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another reason why KDE4 was so bad. I can&#039;t wait for it to go down in flames. I just want to say in advanced: I told you so! 

This blog did nothing but focus on how things look. Is that all your cult of kde can think of? Cause we Lowly people actually care about what a DE can do. Not just it&#039;s how nice it looks. Why don&#039;t you all just go make gnome look better and we will all have the best of both worlds. A somewhat more usable DE that looks kinda nice, or at least tries to look nice, since all you&#039;ve actually done is reimplemented Windows 7 themes. 

For those of you that think it&#039;s the LM, it&#039;s not, it&#039;s the whole DE. It&#039;s filled with inconsistencies.
Just grab a folder view and rotate it 20 degrees, see what happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another reason why <span class="caps">KDE4 </span>was so bad. I can't wait for it to go down in flames. I just want to say in advanced: I told you so! </p>
<p>This blog did nothing but focus on how things look. Is that all your cult of kde can think of? Cause we Lowly people actually care about what a DE can do. Not just it's how nice it looks. Why don't you all just go make gnome look better and we will all have the best of both worlds. A somewhat more usable DE that looks kinda nice, or at least tries to look nice, since all you've actually done is reimplemented Windows 7 themes. </p>
<p>For those of you that think it's the <span class="caps">LM, </span>it's not, it's the whole <span class="caps">DE.</span> It's filled with inconsistencies.<br />
Just grab a folder view and rotate it 20 degrees, see what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: David Vignoni</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Vignoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks everyone for writing your opinion and suggestions.

In general I&#039;d say KDM should be customizable and come with a couple of configuration profiles that distros can choose for default.

I can see how all the features like remote access and console access can be useful, so they should be redesigned as well but perhaps not included as default for a &quot;desktop&quot; profile configuration but instead being included on a &quot;advanced&quot; profile configuration or being activate by the user.

For profiles like &quot;desktop&quot; that would have a nicely styled list, KDM should be able to adapt the layout for any user case: 

* single user
* 2-5 users 
* a lot of users

In general KDM should be &quot;smart&quot; and present options and actions only when necessary (i.e. switch user).

Next step for me is to create some very different &quot;personas&quot; and flowcharts to find out how to handle any situation.

I&#039;ll hopefully be showing something by beginning of next week.

Stay tuned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks everyone for writing your opinion and suggestions.</p>
<p>In general I'd say <span class="caps">KDM </span>should be customizable and come with a couple of configuration profiles that distros can choose for default.</p>
<p>I can see how all the features like remote access and console access can be useful, so they should be redesigned as well but perhaps not included as default for a "desktop" profile configuration but instead being included on a "advanced" profile configuration or being activate by the user.</p>
<p>For profiles like "desktop" that would have a nicely styled list, <span class="caps">KDM </span>should be able to adapt the layout for any user case: </p>
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<li>single user</li>
<li>2-5 users </li>
<li>a lot of users</li>
</ul>
<p>In general <span class="caps">KDM </span>should be "smart" and present options and actions only when necessary (i.e. switch user).</p>
<p>Next step for me is to create some very different "personas" and flowcharts to find out how to handle any situation.</p>
<p>I'll hopefully be showing something by beginning of next week.</p>
<p>Stay tuned.</p>
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		<title>By: Davide Bettio (WindowsUninstall)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davide Bettio (WindowsUninstall)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your usability report is great :)
We are looking forward to the next usability report :)</description>
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We are looking forward to the next usability report <img src='http://www.icon-king.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mohammad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mohammad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great! These are the thing that should be looked at too and finally I see things happening ...

These type of &quot;finishing&quot; or &quot;UIser Exp  pilishing&quot; as I would like to call them I have seen missing in KDE (yes 3, 4 etc) and in overall FOSS products.

While I do believe in technical excellence of products like Linux, KDE (Gnome is lot ahead in this particular aspect), I am still a avid fan of M$ just for their effor in designing the user experience.

Once FOSS / community products put effort in this aspect too, I will have a desktop complete of FOS stack that is not only technically superior, it will be a pleasure to use it too. Right now all I have is good technology at the cost of user experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great! These are the thing that should be looked at too and finally I see things happening ...</p>
<p>These type of "finishing" or "UIser Exp  pilishing" as I would like to call them I have seen missing in <span class="caps">KDE </span>(yes 3, 4 etc) and in overall <span class="caps">FOSS </span>products.</p>
<p>While I do believe in technical excellence of products like Linux, <span class="caps">KDE </span>(Gnome is lot ahead in this particular aspect), I am still a avid fan of M$ just for their effor in designing the user experience.</p>
<p>Once <span class="caps">FOSS </span>/ community products put effort in this aspect too, I will have a desktop complete of <span class="caps">FOS </span>stack that is not only technically superior, it will be a pleasure to use it too. Right now all I have is good technology at the cost of user experience.</p>
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